the watchtower claims that jesus was not the christ at his birth but instead that he did not become the christ until the time of his baptism:.
"not at birth, but at thirty years of age jesus became christ .
" things in which it is impossible for god to lie p. 211. what does the bible say: .
I guess what I'm driving at is that the WTS goes even further, implying that Jesus was not even the Logos at birth.
Of course, a quick search for the meaning of "logos" makes this impossible and illogical, as the Logos is the creative aspect of God which has its own personality.
is that they dont celebrate it but are quite happy to accept gifts or money given by many companies at the end of a year as christmas gift.
in fact, ive heard all sorts of excuses ranging from well thats our money that weve earned over the year anyway to well we shouldnt really offend anyone
it looks like as long as you are receiving money or gifts its okay.
Fortunately I never had to deal with any of these tough issues, as my non-JW friends and family never really tried to give me anything anyway. Even now that I'm not a JW. I never really had any JW friends, they were all arrogant jerks.
okay i know i'm going to hell for this...and a great many other things, but check it.
gods the president executive chief.
jesus is the secretary of state spreading good will all around.
You can't threaten me with Hell. We're already there.
has anyone figured out where the "cause" of all these problems lie yet?
i hear everyone saying how "bad" the jw's are, and how "bad" the government is.
well folks, it was meant to be this way.
did jehovah know that jesus was going to die before he sent him to earth or is that just the way events unfolded.
it sounds a bit mad sending your only begotten son to earth as a perfect baby knowing that later in life he would be nailed and toutured on a stake because jehovahs's principles of justice requires a soul for a soul
That's like saying, if you knew your children were going to rebel against you, would you not have them? That's ridiculous.
Not even slightly ridiculous. I can't create my children in a perfect world devoid of suffering. God could have but chose not to.
please give examples of noteworthy quotations from publications of the watchtower society.
examples could include where they have contradicted themselves, have been inconsistent with logic, have been patronizing, or how what was written rocked you back.
think about quotes that would be helpful to a sincere witness or "newly interested" person in seeing the watchtower society for what it really is.
I think I'll be saving that info if you don't mind...
my 16 year old son received a book from his grandfather "messy spirituality".
the back cover says "i guess i'm not a very good christian" i don't pray enough.
i don't read my bible enough.
My soon-to-be ex wife's family are all Baptists, and I can say with great authority they're some of the looniest of the whole bunch. None of them seemed to know anything about the Bible, though that's probably not limited to Baptists. But in general their whole attitude was so sickening and frustrating I can't describe it. Actually, my time spent around them inspired me to write an article called "How to be a Southern Baptist." Maybe I'll post it here later. Anyway, perhaps I'm misunderstanding the situation, but I'm not sure that giving someone a book about faith is "questioning their spirituality."
is that they dont celebrate it but are quite happy to accept gifts or money given by many companies at the end of a year as christmas gift.
in fact, ive heard all sorts of excuses ranging from well thats our money that weve earned over the year anyway to well we shouldnt really offend anyone
it looks like as long as you are receiving money or gifts its okay.
I can understand accepting a bonus at the end of the year at work, but bragging about recieving Christmas cards and money in the cards to people? Bragging in and of itself is sinful, much less bragging that you got cards from people celebrating a day dedicated to the Devil. (JW explanation.)
that beats wtbs by about 100 languages at least .
feel free to add yours .
acholi - mot ki yomcwing botwo me mwaka manyen .
please give examples of noteworthy quotations from publications of the watchtower society.
examples could include where they have contradicted themselves, have been inconsistent with logic, have been patronizing, or how what was written rocked you back.
think about quotes that would be helpful to a sincere witness or "newly interested" person in seeing the watchtower society for what it really is.
Yeah, someone had made a reference to it on another forum(one I used to admin) when I asked what they thought of whether Jesus died on a cross or on a stake as the JWs claim. Maybe I'll have to stop being lazy and do a thorough search online for that article.
